Comments on: Integrity! What’s that? http://www.intenselymagic.com/2006/05/integrity-whats-that A different perspective of the strange little world of magic and conjuring Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:31:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Maximus http://www.intenselymagic.com/2006/05/integrity-whats-that/comment-page-1#comment-79 Maximus Sun, 04 Jun 2006 05:42:00 +0000 http://intenselymagic.com/2006/05/24/integrity-whats-that/#comment-79 Here is Tracy Atteberry's response to Steve's rant. This is the post that Steve deleted:<br/><br/>Tracy Atteberry Says: <br/>May 24th, 2006 at 11:55 am <br/><br/>Thanks to Brendan for the email and to Steve for the harsh criticism which I accept in the spirit in which they were given. MagiCentric has been removed from the blogroll. I’m a big believer in intellectual property rights and have no desire to publish information not freely given for that purpose. <br/><br/>To answer the Brendan’s question about RSS feeds: No. RSS feeds contain pretty much whatever the provider wants them to contain. Steve’s RSS feeds contains full article content. I would never think of scraping content from someone’s website but an RSS feed is meant to contain content to be syndicated. That’s what the second ‘S’ stands for after all. Also, all content is credited and links provided back to the source which remains extremely valuable as it will often contain content that is not syndicated (like comments or other non-syndicated pages) and most bloggers appreciate the traffic and go out of their to help people drive that traffic to their sites. <br/><br/>That said, I recognize that someone without a clear understanding of what RSS is intended for could be easily upset the first time they see the content syndicated (at my site or any of the thousands of other sites that have syndicated content) and perhaps I should be more clear about that on my site. In fact, you bring to light a very good point. I have to fly off tomorrow to get married but when I get back I will make an effort to contact those on the blogroll to verify their intent when they decided to publish their RSS feed. Thanks! <br/><br/>Yours truly, <br/><br/>The above mentioned “bonehead” <br/><br/>9:13 PM<br/><br/>Tracy was clearly polite and respectful. I think Steve was out of line.<br/><br/>Dan Mindo<br/>magic-uncensored.blogspot.com Here is Tracy Atteberry’s response to Steve’s rant. This is the post that Steve deleted:

Tracy Atteberry Says:
May 24th, 2006 at 11:55 am

Thanks to Brendan for the email and to Steve for the harsh criticism which I accept in the spirit in which they were given. MagiCentric has been removed from the blogroll. I’m a big believer in intellectual property rights and have no desire to publish information not freely given for that purpose.

To answer the Brendan’s question about RSS feeds: No. RSS feeds contain pretty much whatever the provider wants them to contain. Steve’s RSS feeds contains full article content. I would never think of scraping content from someone’s website but an RSS feed is meant to contain content to be syndicated. That’s what the second ‘S’ stands for after all. Also, all content is credited and links provided back to the source which remains extremely valuable as it will often contain content that is not syndicated (like comments or other non-syndicated pages) and most bloggers appreciate the traffic and go out of their to help people drive that traffic to their sites.

That said, I recognize that someone without a clear understanding of what RSS is intended for could be easily upset the first time they see the content syndicated (at my site or any of the thousands of other sites that have syndicated content) and perhaps I should be more clear about that on my site. In fact, you bring to light a very good point. I have to fly off tomorrow to get married but when I get back I will make an effort to contact those on the blogroll to verify their intent when they decided to publish their RSS feed. Thanks!

Yours truly,

The above mentioned “bonehead”

9:13 PM

Tracy was clearly polite and respectful. I think Steve was out of line.

Dan Mindo
magic-uncensored.blogspot.com

]]> By: Maximus http://www.intenselymagic.com/2006/05/integrity-whats-that/comment-page-1#comment-77 Maximus Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:50:00 +0000 http://intenselymagic.com/2006/05/24/integrity-whats-that/#comment-77 Steve knows this is his own fault. As a Blooger he controls how much content is syndicated. He just does not want to admit his ignorance. The guy responded in a polite and intelligent fashion and Steve deleted his comment. Steve knows this is his own fault. As a Blooger he controls how much content is syndicated. He just does not want to admit his ignorance. The guy responded in a polite and intelligent fashion and Steve deleted his comment.

]]> By: Maximus http://www.intenselymagic.com/2006/05/integrity-whats-that/comment-page-1#comment-76 Maximus Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:49:00 +0000 http://intenselymagic.com/2006/05/24/integrity-whats-that/#comment-76 Steve knows this is his own fault. As a Blooger he controls how much content is syndicated. He just does not want to admit his ignorance. The guy responded in a polite and intelligent fashion and Steve deleted his comment. Steve knows this is his own fault. As a Blooger he controls how much content is syndicated. He just does not want to admit his ignorance. The guy responded in a polite and intelligent fashion and Steve deleted his comment.

]]> By: Trickster http://www.intenselymagic.com/2006/05/integrity-whats-that/comment-page-1#comment-74 Trickster Mon, 29 May 2006 04:53:00 +0000 http://intenselymagic.com/2006/05/24/integrity-whats-that/#comment-74 RSS feeds are meant for private aggregation, not for people to steal your content for their own site. As for the titles thing, Steve may include more than titles but others don't and they have entire articles up there. That is theft if the RSS feed stealing isn't. Would your opinion differ if Tracy was talking about making a profit from the Reblog. <br/><br/>Theft is theft and RSS is not a licence to steal.<br/><br/>Check out Steve's latest post about this, I suspect one of the anon posters here may be the reason he had to turn off the comments. He makes a good analogy to CNN etc. RSS feeds are meant for private aggregation, not for people to steal your content for their own site. As for the titles thing, Steve may include more than titles but others don’t and they have entire articles up there. That is theft if the RSS feed stealing isn’t. Would your opinion differ if Tracy was talking about making a profit from the Reblog.

Theft is theft and RSS is not a licence to steal.

Check out Steve’s latest post about this, I suspect one of the anon posters here may be the reason he had to turn off the comments. He makes a good analogy to CNN etc.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.intenselymagic.com/2006/05/integrity-whats-that/comment-page-1#comment-72 Anonymous Thu, 25 May 2006 23:45:00 +0000 http://intenselymagic.com/2006/05/24/integrity-whats-that/#comment-72 Ignore my earlier post about reading the comments on MagiCentric for this topic. Steve turned his comments off. A shame since the guy posted a response. Ignore my earlier post about reading the comments on MagiCentric for this topic. Steve turned his comments off. A shame since the guy posted a response.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.intenselymagic.com/2006/05/integrity-whats-that/comment-page-1#comment-71 Anonymous Thu, 25 May 2006 23:42:00 +0000 http://intenselymagic.com/2006/05/24/integrity-whats-that/#comment-71 RSS readers/aggregaters displays what is in the RSS. <br/><br/>Steve's RSS feed contains more then just the headline. <br/><br/>Magic Re-Blog is only displaying what is in the RSS.<br/><br/>If Steve does not want it displayed then he should remove the content and only leave the titles and summary.<br/><br/>I like the Magic Re-blog because he is putting the effort into finding the few good magic blogs that are out there. RSS readers/aggregaters displays what is in the RSS.

Steve’s RSS feed contains more then just the headline.

Magic Re-Blog is only displaying what is in the RSS.

If Steve does not want it displayed then he should remove the content and only leave the titles and summary.

I like the Magic Re-blog because he is putting the effort into finding the few good magic blogs that are out there.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.intenselymagic.com/2006/05/integrity-whats-that/comment-page-1#comment-70 Anonymous Thu, 25 May 2006 19:39:00 +0000 http://intenselymagic.com/2006/05/24/integrity-whats-that/#comment-70 First of all, the difference is your RSS reader usually only gives you headlines, not the complete blog article.<br/><br/>Secondly, there aren't enough GOOD magic blogs as it is, so why not put the effort into creating one. Its the same as putting effort into anything worthwhile. This includes magical effects.<br/><br/>Finally, if Steve doesn't want the use of his blog on another site, then it should be RESPECTED. First of all, the difference is your RSS reader usually only gives you headlines, not the complete blog article.

Secondly, there aren’t enough GOOD magic blogs as it is, so why not put the effort into creating one. Its the same as putting effort into anything worthwhile. This includes magical effects.

Finally, if Steve doesn’t want the use of his blog on another site, then it should be RESPECTED.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.intenselymagic.com/2006/05/integrity-whats-that/comment-page-1#comment-69 Anonymous Thu, 25 May 2006 19:38:00 +0000 http://intenselymagic.com/2006/05/24/integrity-whats-that/#comment-69 First of all, the difference is your RSS reader usually only gives you headlines, not the complete blog article.<br/><br/>Secondly, there aren't enough GOOD magic blogs as it is, so why not put the effort into creating one. Its the same as putting effort into anything worthwhile. This includes magical effects.<br/><br/>Finally, if Steve doesn't want the use of his blog on another site, then it should be RESPECTED. First of all, the difference is your RSS reader usually only gives you headlines, not the complete blog article.

Secondly, there aren’t enough GOOD magic blogs as it is, so why not put the effort into creating one. Its the same as putting effort into anything worthwhile. This includes magical effects.

Finally, if Steve doesn’t want the use of his blog on another site, then it should be RESPECTED.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.intenselymagic.com/2006/05/integrity-whats-that/comment-page-1#comment-68 Anonymous Wed, 24 May 2006 19:31:00 +0000 http://intenselymagic.com/2006/05/24/integrity-whats-that/#comment-68 Make sure you read the latest comments at MagiCentric on this topic. I don't think the guy is doing anything wrong. He is just aggregating what Steve allowed to be syndicated in his RSS feed. <br/><br/>What's the difference in readding MagiCentric from ReBlog or from MyYahoo RSS reader? Make sure you read the latest comments at MagiCentric on this topic. I don’t think the guy is doing anything wrong. He is just aggregating what Steve allowed to be syndicated in his RSS feed.

What’s the difference in readding MagiCentric from ReBlog or from MyYahoo RSS reader?

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